U KNOW ITS KINDA FUNNY WHEN I SIT HERE AN SMOKE A BLUNT...AN THINK IS IT REALLY MY FAULT THE CLAN SLOWED UP????.....AN I SAY FUCC NO BECUZZ WE HAVE TO MANY DUDES WHO LIED AN WHO FAKED AN WHO DIDNT SHOW UP AT ALL SO ....TO THOSE DUDES WHO SAID THEY WERE DOWN FOR ATR AN LEFT ....FUCC U .....WIT BELLS ON .....U DUDES COMPLAINED AN DIDNT DO A THING TO INTERACT WITH THE CLAN...OR DIDNT POST ON THE SITE...OR DIDNT COME WHEN MESSAGED ON SOCOM..OR DIDNT GET ON BUT ON WEEKENDS...OR DIDNT STAY IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE CLAN...OR FEEL THE CLAN SLOWED DOWN BECAUSE THEY DONT PLAY WIT CLAN MEMBERS BUT STILL WANT TO COMPLAIN...OR DIDNT COME TO THE MEETINGS...OR DIDNT DO **** TO SHOW INTREST IN THE CLAN EVEN THO THE CLAN SHOWED THEM BUT THEY TURNED IT DOWN....OR FELT THEY WERE TO GOOD TO PLAY WITH CERTIN PPL...WE SET UP TO MUCH FOR YOU UNGREATFULL MUTHAFUCCAS ....WEB SITE ,G.B WARS,CLAN MEETINS,......UN FUCCIN GREATFULL BIITCHES....SO IM TAKIN ALL NON ATR OFF MY FRIENDS LIST....U FAILED ME ..FUCCED ME...LIED TO ME...FAKED ON ME...USED ME..JUST ALL AROUND SOCOM FAKE....ATR CAME TROUGH FOR U FAKE ASSS SOCOM DUDES AN THIS THE THANKS WE GET!!!! FUCC U ....YEA IM PISSED...CUZ I GET DUDES WHO TELL ME LIES LIKE BIITCHES ...ATR DONT NEED U DUDES ..DONT WANT U DUDES ..AN I FEEL WE WILL PROSPER ONE WAY OR ANOTHER...JUST BECAUSE I AS A CLAN LEADER GO TROUGH SOME **** AT HOME DONT MEAN I GAVE UP ON THE GAME OR ATR ..SHIIT AM I NOT A BIITCH LIKE ALOT OF THESE OTHER FAKE NIIGGAS WHO CLAM TO BE DOWN FOR THE CAUSE BUT REALLY FAKIN THE FRONT.......ATR IS AN ARMY AN WILL MOVE FORWARD...JUST REMEMBER THIS CLAN WAS CREATED FOR U THE SOCOM PLAYER ....SO PASS THE WORD ...ITS ALL OUT WAR...SO IF U DONT WANT TO RIDE WIT ATR NOW ..DONT ASK TO GET PICCED UP LATER WHEN WE DO BECOME ONE OF THE TOP CLANS..ITS NOT OVER BIITCHES..UNTILL I GIVE UP THE ATR NAME...ATR FO LIFE NIIGGA WITH OR WITH OUT U WEAK ,FAKE,UNGEATFULL,SORRY,FAKEASSS,NON TEAM PLAYER,PEICE OF ****,NON ATR WORTHY,BASTERD,CRY BABY OF THE YEAR ASSS,NO GOOD,DUMP TRUCK,GARBAGE ASSS,NON CONTRIBUTE,NON POSTIN,DONT NEED TO WASTE MY BREATH ON ASS NIIGGAS......THAT WAS FOR THE NON EX ATR MEMBERS!!!!!!! IF THE SHOE FIT PUT THAT **** ON LOLOLOLOL .....BUT A BIG THANKS TO THE GUYS STICCIN AROUND AN KEEPIN IT REAL WITH ME AN THE CLAN ..THANK YOU FOR KEEPIN ATR ALIVE AN MOVIN I GOT NOTHIN BUT LUV FOR U 15 OUT OF 45 GUYS WHO GOT YOUR TAGS AN PLAY AN POST .........THANK YOU !!!!...ATR 4 LIFE....
I couldn't vote on the poll, because I have way different oppinon that no option could satisfy. I believe the for a successful clan there must be strong leaders, and yes Ron is a strong leader. But you need many strong leaders to make a strong clan. Another approach which I believe would have made this clan even greater is No Leaders. I do not believe in leadership "stars". They mean nothing.
Rank is very important in leadership--there is a reason it works within all miltary branches. It means nothing now, because we aren't using it correctly.
Mainly becuase many of the people Ron gave leadership too....stabbed him in the back.
Personally it's nothing........there are only a handful of "loyal" people left........as it always had been that way.
We are getting a rash of people who want to complain and not contribute. Those who think they are contributing can't get there headz out there azz.
I agree with you jay. By rank i mean the generals, 1 star 2 strar, 3 star, 4 star cookie, lietenant, commander ete etc.... i got rid of that. I have i t broke down as follows:
Leaders 2 co-leaders 3 captains-4 soldiers-the rest of them
he ment you edited DEMO message. Anyways I feel what Ron is saying, but you have to think about the whole fact that some people are ready to go and not just sit around talking. I had made a second name for ATR but I can't work with this nigga Jay. Editing messages on some fag ****, having that whole "I run this style". Then nigga don't be playing like that. So i just was like **** it. Y'all can call me all the names in the book I don't care but stop looking at the dudes that left as the problem and look at yourselves, because a lot of people left, that must say something about how you run your ship.
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Much love to Ron, I really respect this dude but your mans has some **** with him.
Moe I didn't say nothing to you when you left. I said nothing to Black.Hawk when he left I said nothing to Demo when he left....i tried to call, but he never called back.
I honestly had nothing to do with why you guys left....If I did that it's "YOUR PROBLEM"
Not mine----I"m not posting on your website on some bull crap.
I edited his message because he spammed the same thing in 3 different topics.....you guys are butt hurt for attacking our forums for 4 weeks?
i honestly belive i am one of the most loyal people to ATR though im not on ps3 or socom. recently whitetiger (hitman) killed the ATR name on xbox . im re makin it when i get done with techs school in the air force. i HONESTLY can not have another clan tag. it . feels wrong. until RON says were done. im stayin in this clan
as for leaders and what not. how about this. i dont know who left. who stabbed who. all i can do is read here on the site but GET RID OF black hawk and all these guys that just keep havin drama. comin to the site knowing their not in the clan. knowing they left and dont belong here AFTER years. go get a life. ATR is honestly more than a clan to me. it is obviously that way with ron and jay and many others. if you dont have OUR mentality about ATR. you keep leavin and cryin........ then get the **** out of our clan and our site.
jay. can you just block them!? they make only drama
im going to recruit new members. and USE THIS SITE ONLY we will be posting here. just wait about a month till im back on LIVE or even PSN if i get one
ron if you read this. you know me. im an O.G. with this clan no one can deny that. im here to stay so you can rely on me
btw. ron. stay active on the site. and get new VERY active strong leaders that wont leave when you have a bad week or something like. ready4war did and many many many countless others.
you can lead. obviously. you have kept this ATR ALIVE FOR almost 7 YEARS!!!
who knows a clan thats been around that long!? maybe T*P team players or is IMR!??!
WELL I FEEL I GIVE DUDES OPPERTUNITY TO IMPLAMENT THERE LEADERHIP SKILLS AN TO STOP TALKIN IN MY EAR AN DO WHAT U SAY UR GOING TO DO ...SPEACIALY FOR THOSE THAT HAD LEADERSHIP ..I DINDT FEEL I HAD TO BE ON 24HRS A DAY ..OR WHEN OTHER LEADERS ON U DONT NEED ME TO HAVE A WAR ...THATS WHY U ARE LEADERS !!!!...U CAN RUN IT WITH OUT ME ON FOR A DAY OR TWO...BUT IT SEEMS DUDES CANT HANDLE THE PRESSURE OR HANDLE MULTIPLE INDAVIDUALS...BUT I DO IT ALL THE TIME EVRYDAY FOR YEARS.....AN MOE I DONT LIKE SITTIN AROUND EITHER AN THATS WHY WE HAVE G.B,TOURNYS,CLAN WARS..ECT...BUT IF WE GOT HELLA DUDES WHO CHOOSE NOT TO INTERACT IN THE CLAN OR HELLA DUDES WHO DONT WANT TO KNOW WHATS GOING ON BECAUSE THEY DID NOT ASK QUESTIONS OR COME TO A CLAN MEETIN OR DIDNT GO TO THE WEB SITE TO BE INFORMED THATS NOT MY FAULT!!!.....SO I ASK AGIN IS IT REALLY ME??????????????
well ron. were having the opposite problem on Xbox. the leader whitetiger. disbanded again....... so the members and i are keeping ATR alive. they even paid to have their name changed to ATR Legend, ATR stitches etc. i will be there to help them lead mid january but you know white tiger how he is. this happend yesterday. basically count on me to keep it goin on live.. JAY they are migrating to this site. no more bravehost.atrgaming and all that. he killed it to make a new one called unrated.... well JAY PLEASE to keep us going STRONG i need to have you put us on t his site. re make some stuff. have a section devoted to MEMBERS ON LIVE or something right along side the ps3 can you do that for me? sorry i should have had more respect. "Staff Sgt. could you do that for me so?" while at parade rest hahah
so please welcome them. they will be using this site FULLY! for mostly forums. and recognition
if anyone cares. this is what i wrote white tiger after i basically got everyone to stay ATR and not go to unrated
From McLaren to HITMAN (whitetigher)
ok. whitetiger. my old friend from socom. i have known you for 6 years now. kind of crazy i know.. you are bad ass. id meet you if i were in cali or where u live colorado!? id meet jayskills, id meet ron etc. dont get mad about something i say or take it to heart i wanna be your friend and game friend still no matter what
you cannot be a clan... owner. you however are a GREAT leader, i cant say i am or not i know i try though. but your past of deleting clans and basically throwing hissy fits is just insane man really! you DESTROY at the game . leading. websites. all that but you cant just go throw it away like that. i however MUST keep the ATR name alive. with or without you . i can loose every person i know from socom as long as ron still carries on the name. i think i will to. i really dont know why. check the site . i posted about it
i realy really want you to just realize what you did. people paid money. only 10 bucks but still. to change their name. and the ATR name is well known with a GREAT base that honestly i think will never die. we have been around this long right!?
they want that name. i want you to have that name. i posted the idea to stitches sayin hey. ill play with everyone. but with or without you or anyone. im makin ATR on live. i have to its like my duty i think.... they were all mad and basically told you hey we want that name dont change stuff but you didnt listen. you should take the clan as a whole into consideration before making your own final
basically i think we all wanna just have a few main ATR leaders like say 4 or 5 main officers. not one being above the other. with all the soldiers below.
i know you are GREAT at keeping up the site. taking videos. GB management. you are all around killer with the game plus the stuff online. if you can just slow down on ur self. i think ur too hard on ur self. were all here for fun right!? come play with ATR. let the clan roll. and still do ur best like you always do... but this time the only thing that changes is you wont be full leader. cuz no one will be... and as for the website. i love how you did yours. kept it up to date. but ill talk to jay. im going to get him to put us on the site real big as in ATR- PS3 and XBOX hand and hand
can you do that!? be you and just not disban!? thats what everyone wants to be honest with you. i hope i didnt say anything too bad to hurt ur feeligns or make u mad. i just wanna make you realize whats up with you.
where do i have room to talk!? im inactive well yes. military. but this shows i havent given up on ATR though ive been away for so long. im going to come back better than ever i swear it. let stitches. hat trick. legend and them PLUS YOU run this clan. have fun with it and have it liek the old ways when you guys went 150-50 or whatever it was last season. the only reason why we fell off like we did they said is because you locked them out of GB. ( going back to sole leaderiship in you ) they didnt want that.
i dont expect ATR to be top 5. maybe some day.. thats high hopes though. look at all the clans that come to the top and dissapear!!! as for ATR we may not be top 5 but we are still one of the tightest most organized clans on any game or system out there and YOU KNOW THAT! YOU KNOW ATR!!! almost better than me! ;)
so. what do you think!?
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JAY bottom line. will you welcome us with open arms!?
lol its just funny we do some what the same thing ya know?! but yea ill have to get their input on everything so we can make this stuff roll! i hope hitman comes along but we'll see
WOW!!!! MAN I READ ALL THAT SHIIT AN I DIDNT EVEN KNOW ANY OF THAT AN IN TALK TO WHITE ON THE PHONE ALL THE TIME......WHOOOOO!!!!! ATR CAN BE LARGE LIKE OTHER MULTI GAMIN CLANS...ASC KEEP THAT SHIIT GOING AN I WILL APPLY THE PRESSURE ON JAY TO GET THAT GOING...ASC DOG WE GO WAY BACK ....DONT LET THE MISTAKE OF ONE DUDE FALTER THE CLAN...IF U GATTA STEP UP THEN DO SO..U GOT WHAT IT TAKES ....KEEP ATR GOING STRONG ON X-BOX
It didnt really go down exactly like that, but some what like that. I didnt disband, they left me, but its all good... Ron I did tell you about that...on the phone yesterday..i think... he makes me out to be some kind of bad guy...which im not, Who built that clan on 360...hmmm....i wonder...? But anyways.... Im still with ATR on 360.
..UNTILL I GIVE UP THE ATR NAME...ATR FO LIFE NIIGGA WITH OR WITH OUT U WEAK ,FAKE,UNGEATFULL,SORRY,FAKEASSS,NON TEAM PLAYER,PEICE OF ****,NON ATR WORTHY,BASTERD,CRY BABY OF THE YEAR ASSS,NO GOOD,DUMP TRUCK,GARBAGE ASSS,NON CONTRIBUTE,NON POSTIN,DONT NEED TO WASTE MY BREATH ON ASS NIIGGAS......THAT WAS FOR THE NON EX ATR MEMBERS!!!!!!! IF THE SHOE FIT PUT THAT **** ON LOLOLOLOL .....BUT A BIG THANKS TO THE GUYS STICCIN AROUND AN KEEPIN IT REAL WITH ME AN THE CLAN ..THANK YOU FOR KEEPIN ATR ALIVE AN MOVIN I GOT NOTHIN BUT LUV FOR U 15 OUT OF 45 GUYS WHO GOT YOUR TAGS AN PLAY AN POST .........THANK YOU !!!!...ATR 4 LIFE....
